May 07, 2008

A Passing Thought on KOZMO.Com

Recall Kozmo, fellow units? Here's the Wayback Machine's screenshot (which incidently, has just told the FBI to put a sock in their National Security Letter. ) I did always kind of like the green and orange colors.

I was idly thinking the other day about the anything-at-anytime delivery service that was one of the fuses of the dot kaboom; it tried for a big mark in Seattle. Last I heard of it, I was having a beer with one of the Kozmo guys. He was sad.

Why did such a semi- pretty good idea go wrong? In retrospect, a lot of arrogance. Why not charge a wee bit for small orders? Why 24 hours? Why insist on the purity of everything? I would assume it was really a long gamble on cornering a new market, rather than a good business strategy- the idea being to cash in rather than simply build a good market. (Not that I know anything about those, but a bad one is often obvious).

I suspect that corporate as opposed to business thinking ruled, and with an obsession with one model, killed a whole promising sector. Well, whatever. Part of this still seems like a good idea.

Now, interestingly enough, a more modest service is going in Manhattan, called MaxDelivery. According to the wiki on Kozmo.com, it's been going since 2005 and was launched by the CTO of Kozmo. Is it making money? Who knows, but it's already lasted about as long as Kozmo.

Interesting because it occurs me that this leaves the West Coast wide open for something similar, a far more modest (remember "burn rate?"), like a basic one-hour web and phone delivery service through say, San Francisco, Portland, and Seattle downtowns, organized around existing stores and existing delivery systems (taxis, maybe?), and a more limited, more carefully set of products. What do you really not want to drive for when you realize you want it? Liquor comes to mind, auto parts, groceries.

And this is interesting, not because I have more than, let's see, about $37 to invest, but for a more general observation. People originally avoided this business for the expensive, understandable disaster Kozmo was, but it occurs to me they are avoiding it now somewhat irrationally. Why on earth not set up a modest internet-driven delivery service, particularly when one seems to be working in Manhattan? The giant corporate version crashed, why wouldn't at least one of a set of smaller, more market-sensitive attempts succeed?

So I ask those of you who learned the bitter lessons of those years from personal experience. Is an internet general delivery service actually a good idea underused because of the dot kaboom, or is it doomed, and why?

3 Comments:

Blogger alethea said...

I ordered from Kozmo.com a few times and thought it was pretty cool service. I think there is a market for it in Seattle. I would say, go for it. =)

May 8, 2008 at 2:12 AM  
Blogger The Sum of All Monkeys said...

What works in NY NY doesn't always work elsewhere.

Our West Coast population densities makes our 'people to deliver to within 20 minutes drive' pretty feeble in comparison.

Plus NY already had a culture that was used to having things delivered.

E.g. In NY in the 80s you could dial 1-800-Need-pot and have a nickel bag delivered within a few hours (assuming the delivery guy didn't uh, space)

And most NY supermarkets have been offering a delivery service since the '30s.

Still, if you came up with an Eco-angle (biodiesel delivery vans?) I bet that'd overcome the west coast reluctance to not drive somewhere.

Basically, make the angle "We'll get this to you with less of a carbon footprint than you'd make doing it yourself!" (and isn't that worth a modest surcharge?)

Just a thought...

May 8, 2008 at 8:54 AM  
Blogger JAB said...

Ms. Alethea recalls the good time - not "times," it was short. But your last point, Sir Monkey, is the hook.

Let's say I realize both that I'm out of toilet paper and Laphroaig. (Yes, sad and not even a hypothetical).

If the state liquor store and Fred Meyer had a contract with bio-diesel truck/ bike messenger system, I would, get it within an hour or so, and slightly reduce my carbon footprint. $5 on say $60 of cost. With the minor but interesting eco-angle, I might do it. Just the sort of thing to kick one into a newer (or rather much older) consumer practice. Especially if I had JUST run out of scotch.

Of course, the northern West Coast cities are increasing density as fast as they can - if you could make a case that a delivery service would also reduce the number of cars on the road, you might create one of those public-sanctioned private creations like Zip Cars, with special rules that can reduce the costs for the business.

The other side of this is whether NOT recreating a more sensible version of Kozmo in the past few years has been more psychological holdover than rational business - certainly a wealth of stupid ideas with big money has flourished in th e past few years.

May 8, 2008 at 9:37 AM  

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